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  • Originally posted by Crabbcakes View Post
    Hah! Cheeky sod, indeed! Glad you stuck up for yourself!!

    Now tell me what bangers and mash are, so you can tell him you are educating an ignorant Yank.
    You may be a Yank, but I would say you are very well educated, interesting, full of life Yank. I take great pleasure in conversing with you and Bess. My husband and kids keep asking are you writing to your pen pals.

    Anyway bangers and mash are sausages and mashed potato. Called bangers as they can make loud bang in frying pan when cooking. Used to be one of our staple meals growing up - sausages, mash, peas with bread and butter.


    • Originally posted by Crabbcakes View Post
      That is totally cool that your boys are well cared-for! I didn't have an awful public school experience either - I had nothing but good teachers back then who were willing to go out of their way for me. Public schooling just wasn't right for First back when she was due to go to Kindergarten, and I had to seek her answers. It was then that I discovered this entire alternate universe.

      Would you explain the whole English school system for me?? Heaven help me, I keep hearing about "O Levels" and such, and don't know what this is!

      I hate all the money spent on elections here. Hate, hate, hate it with a passion. We all talk about national debt, and everybody is underfunded (for the good stuff that benefits all), but here is hundreds of millions of dollars available for friggin' awful, lying, political ads in every state. Election cycle, after election cycle, after election cycle. Ugh. I still need to see the Clint Eastwood thing, but it made the Wall Street Journal (that is one of the newspapers we get) since we don't have regular TV of any kind. I am an Independent - that means I am not registered as a member of any party, so I have no say in any party's decisions. But I can vote in general and local elections for anybody I please (as can everybody else here). Mr. Crabbcakes is a Republican, but he has been known to vote against party lines when he sees fit.

      re the circuit training - good luck, sincerely! I am starting YAYOG tomorrow - I only have 12 weeks until I leave for Germany, and the losing-inches thing of mine has stalled, so I think the next step (training) needs to happen now.

      I haven't said it lately, but I really appreciate you talking to me. I am learning, too!
      Re the UK educational system, I will tell you my experience of it.
      When I was at school.bear in mind i am 46 you went to secondary school at 11 and it was called First Year . We took O levels at age 16 fifth year* and took A Levels in sixth form which lasted two years - Lower Sixth and Upper Sixth. (exams taken at age 18)
      remember when it happened but we have become Americanised, when you start Secondary school now it is called Year 6 (age11) I still call them by the old numbers which confuses the kids.
      The first year of school -age 4 is called Reception. Then they go into Year one. I assume that this is what happens in US.
      Anyway O levels have now been replaced by GCSE's which you take in Year 11 - Age 16.
      You still take A levels at age 18 which is Year 13, though instead of taking one main exam you have several exams spaced over the two years.
      One of my proudest ever moments was when we went to school certificate award evening last year as my 18 year old had recently passed his A levels. He is very quiet, though has a good network of friends. Anyway he got really good grades in maths and the sciences. He is clever but he got such good grades as he spent at least two hours* each evening revising to achieve the grades.
      Anyway at the end of the award ceremony there was a big silver cup on the table. When his name got called out as pupil who had achieved far better than expectations at the start of the A level process he was presented with the cup I couldn't believe it. Corny I know, but I was so proud.

      The circuit training was no way as difficult as I expected. Will go to the gym tomorrow to lift heavy weights and short sprints. Not looking forward to work on Monday, makes me realise how much time I spend in work just sitting on my backside.

      What is YAYOG?
      I didn't know you were going to Germany? Who is going, why are you going and how long for? excuse my nosiness.
      I have found tht my quickest method of losing inches for me is to eat very high fat, high protein and restrict the carbs to just veg such as lettuce and cabbage. It is the eating plan recommended by Gary Taubes.
      I need to adopt my own advise as although I have not ata any bread etc on holiday I had quite a bit of chocolate. Have decided today is the first day of getting back on straight and narrow.

      I hate all the election crap as well. I can remember years ago when we used to laugh at the hype of the US election process. Now our system although not quite as brash is following suit. It is like show biz, all sound bites with no meaning, what is frightening is that these are the people who run our countries. for example David Cameron said the NHS is safe in Conservative hands. Although it is still free at source they have privatised a lot of the services. The result has been some hospitals have gone bankrupt and people being told things like hip replacements are no longer treatable on the NHS.
      I read that US citizens pay a fortune for health care in comparison to most nations. I think the US private companies who have now moved into the sector would love us to all pay for personal health insurance as well.
      Hope your YAYOG went well, whatever it was?


      • Originally posted by Bess58 View Post
        Just a quick line to you two before I depart for my family day.

        Crabbcakes: No time to answer in detail. But I read about the Clint Eastwood thing in the paper this morning. Very strange ... They also wrote that Obama's staff published a foto of Obama sitting on a chair with a caption of "this seat is still taken" (a least that's how I re-translate it from the German article).

        Anne: Thanks for your kind words about my English. Yes, that one was just a typo. I type very fast, without looking, but my fingers are used to the German letter combinations, and sometimes they get it wrong.

        To your dear husband: I have indeed arranged my lifestyle in a way that I have to do very little housework. An important part of this lifestyle is to stay single and unmarried ...

        Have a nice weekend, my educational and cultural friends!
        Hi Bess,
        Hope your trip goes/went well.
        I know what you mean about mimimal housework. I know some is necessary, but as long as I am not embarrassed to open the front door I am happy.
        Is that your intention to always stay single? I can certainly see the attractions to doing what you want rather than accommodating others. Though although I moan about my husband etc we are quite similar in a lot of respects. We are not great socialisers and quite happy to stay in of an evening. We only go out with friends together once every other month. I have a good network of female friends who I go for a meal with every few weeks. Also I go away with my friends one weekend a year, my husband goes golfing one weekend a year. We are both really into health and fitness so our holidays tend to involve activities.
        We do have arguments as like most men he like his own way, but not very often, plus he only tidies up when it suits him. I am writing this and he is playing scrabble while we both half watch a footy match.
        Weather is lovely here today so going to sit in the garden and read.


        • Hey anne!

          Here is the US school system in a nutshell:

          If you need or want to, you can seek "daycare" for your child, and that lasts anywhere from 6 weeks of age until age 5 (at the discretion of the parents), which is when the US public school system kicks in. These are regulated, licensed places where your kid is fed and wiped and watched and put down for naps, and where they can play until Mom picks them up again. You pay for these yourself. There is no adult educational requirement for these places, except for the raft of state government regulations about cleanliness, safety, building codes, background checks on staff, and stuff like that.

          (A "babysitter" is the same thing, but this usually refers to a close friend of the family or relative, who isn't a licensed daycare center, whom you give your child to for care. The payment is whatever you agree to, or nothing at all - that is left up to your private arrangements. Government regulations don't apply here, as this is not a business but a private matter.)

          As an alternative, you can choose to send your walking, talking, potty-trained 3 or 4-year old to a "preschool", which is a private institution and you choose your favorite one and pay (even though they, too have all the usual state laws to satisfy as to safety, building codes, cleanliness, etc). These are places where "early learning" and play are combined. The "teachers" have early-childhood-education degrees from colleges.

          The "official" school career starts at age 5, and that is called Kindergarten (we stole that word in its entirety from the Germans)

          Then you start counting "grades", as in First Grade (age 6), Second Grade (age 7), and so on. "Elementary school" is usually the time span Kindergarten through Fifth or Sixth Grade (school systems may choose for themselves) and they are housed in the same building.

          Grades (5)/6/7/8 are usually housed in another building somewhere in town, and this is called either "Middle School" or "Junior High", depending on what the local school board has decided to name it. I grew up using the term Junior High. The last "grade" referred to in number in everyday conversation is Eighth Grade (end of middle school / junior high), because the next year kids transfer over to the local High School and...

          High school levels are referred to by their names: Freshman (= grade 9), then Sophomore (grade 10), then Junior (grade 11) and finally Senior (grade 12). At the end of your senior year, you either have satisfied the requirements for a public school diploma (which means you get the document at a graduation ceremony), or you haven't (which means you don't have one and don't get to go to graduation). In the case of not having fulfilled the requirements for a public school diploma, you are on your own, because you may not stay longer than your senior year - you are kicked out of the nest to find what make-up classes or alternative schooling you may find and/or choose.

          There is an alternate, universally recognized equivalent here - it is called the GED (General Educational Development). It is seen as the booby prize, even though I have been reading that it is actually a more thorough and difficult test to pass than many regular senior-year individual class exams. Classes and the final tests for this are offered everywhere in the USA - even in jails and on military bases.

          If you desire, and you have found a college/university that will accept you, there is such a thing as early graduation. You don't get any kind of ceremony, but if you have already met the requirements of a public school diploma before your senior year, you may choose to leave high school, diploma in hand, and start attending college. This almost always happens after the junior year is completed (skipping senior year), since the method used to calculate high school class values doesn't really allow time for graduation earlier than this.

          After high school, if you are attending a four-year university/college program, your years are named the same as the high school years. As in, your first year of college is your freshman year, the second year is the sophomore year, etc.


          As a side note, it is allowed here to "hold back" a child who has not mastered the learning contained in a grade level. This means that the child in question must do the grade level not mastered again - the entire school year. So a kid would do second grade, for example, twice - two years in a row. It is hoped that at the end of the second go-around the child will now understand stuff much better and can progress to the next level (third grade, using our example). And yes, that means that the kid is now forever separated from their original age-mates. Which is almost always a source of much anxiety here - some parents see keeping the failing kid with his/her "friends" as more important than the learning and push incredibly hard to have the kid move up anyway.

          It happens most often in elementary school. Sometimes this happens with the wholehearted support of the parents and is the correct choice for a kid, and sometimes it happens against the wishes of the parents - it depends on the individual situation. The mean-spirited colloquial phrase is "she flunked second grade", no further explanations attached or wanted. The politically correct phrase is "Susie was held back in second grade", and is usually followed by an immediate explanation (from the parents) of why Susie really needed this/how good it was for her/how we agreed to it/yada yada because it is generally seen as embarassing that your kid couldn't pass basic schooling.
          I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC


          • Originally posted by annedawso View Post
            One of my proudest ever moments was when we went to school certificate award evening last year as my 18 year old had recently passed his A levels. He is very quiet, though has a good network of friends. Anyway he got really good grades in maths and the sciences. He is clever but he got such good grades as he spent at least two hours* each evening revising to achieve the grades.
            Anyway at the end of the award ceremony there was a big silver cup on the table. When his name got called out as pupil who had achieved far better than expectations at the start of the A level process he was presented with the cup I couldn't believe it. Corny I know, but I was so proud.
            Not corny at all! Tell your son I said that he did an awesome job!

            I felt the same way when First entered a library teen/adult summer reading book review contest - and won the whole thing last year. Wooo-hooooo!! We were just doing it for the experience, not with a mind to win. But then they called us with that bit of news, and I had a smile big enough to almost crack my face!

            (Summer Reading: here in the US, every library has a "summer reading" program. That is where the children's section librarians cook up a theme and get materials and prizes ready for the kids. The themes change every year (so the kids don't get bored.) There is always a sheet you take home and track your reading with. You need to show this to the librarians to get your prizes. There are always little prizes for smaller accomplishments, like reading to a toddler for 60 minutes during the week, or young children reading 5 books, and so on. Typically, if you complete an entire sheet (which is like reading to a toddler for 60 minutes each week for 6 weeks, or reading 5 books per week for 6 weeks - that kind of thing), you get your name put into a bin for a chance to win an even bigger prize. And some of these are nice!

            I have seen programs, though, that give you a list of library materials to plow through (as in "Watch a DVD about a nature topic" and "read a book on a nature topic" and "write a review of a nature book"), and when you have reached a particular number of these (in whatever combination the library stipulates) you are entered into a drawing. One of the libraries we go to had one of these last year, and the prize was a DVD, a stuffed animal, and bags of microwave popcorn - all placed in a big, clean, movie-theater bucket used for popcorn - and the winner got all of it.

            As you grow up, and you are not eligible for the children's program (the kid's program is limited by age), you move to a teen program. The ones I have seen are essay/book review contests.

            Sometimes they have adult stuff, but normally adults group themselves into book discussion clubs.)
            Last edited by Crabbcakes; 09-01-2012, 07:20 AM.
            I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC


            • Thanks for the very thorough explanation. Actually the schooling and child care provision for younger children sounds very similar.
              Though most of our schools now have what they call a Nursery school attached were kids from approx 3 and a half attend for free either in the am or pm. They basically just play but gets them used to school life.
              Where you would say kindergarten we would say infant school. Where you would say middle or junior high we would say "primary school" or "junior school" all the kids from age 4 to 11 are part of the same school but are normally in a separate building close by.

              I went to a convent school run by the sisters of Mercy. I enjoyed school especially sixth form. I had to pass a national exam called the 11+ to get into what was called a Grammer school. Those kids who didnt pass went to the local Comprenhensive school. We lived in a tiny house in inner city Liverpool when I was young without much money. I visited the Library every day and read constantly. As the house was so small I would spend as much time in the Library as I could just to escape and be able to read and do my homework in peace.
              People can be cruel about kids who don't pass exams. I am fortunate that all my 3 have excelled at schoolwork and exams, though I know it could easily be the other way. Sometimes I wish those who brag about thir kids and try to put down others would have their comeuppance. It is to easy to criticise.


              • Originally posted by annedawso View Post
                What is YAYOG?
                I didn't know you were going to Germany? Who is going, why are you going and how long for? excuse my nosiness.
                YAYOG = "You Are Your Own Gym", a book by Mark Lauren. A book about bodyweight exercises. I chose this one because they have total beginner, wimpy-ass exercises for blobs like me, and build up to gymnast-difficulty. And there is not one shred of exercise equipment to buy, or a gym to find, or clothing to source.

                I know a bit about Physical Therapy, being around Third in the PT gym all these years, and I see that the progressions Lauren gives are slow, methodical, and correct.

                The best part is that these can be done everywhere you find yourself, by yourself - no fuss, no muss.

                Re Germany - my mom is a German immigrant to the US (the only immigrant in her family, ever - to anywhere), so fully half my family is there. I'll be over there (all by myself - no hubby or kids!) because one of my favorite cousins is getting married. And because it has been too damn long since I last got over. I arrive mid-November and stay for two weeks. I want to get fit because I was trim and sporty the last time I was there - it was pre-husband, pre-kids, pre-housewifey thing, pre-postpartum depression and nasty weight gain... you get the idea.

                My grandmother and my uncle are fixated on physical appearances, and I don't care to be the fat, lazy, stereotypical American. Mind you, they do this to all their kids, spouses, etc., so I am not being singled out just because of my citizenship. I really don't need their validation for anything, but I wanted to do this for myself anyway, and the timing of this trip just happens to dovetail nicely with my desires for a healthier me. The deadline gives me a wee little push in the right direction...
                Last edited by Crabbcakes; 09-01-2012, 07:42 AM.
                I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC


                • I totally know where you are coming from re your trip to Germany. I too would want to look good. Bet you won't know yourself - no husband and kids.
                  In centerparcs I did a mini YAYOG I suppose as the equipment was not very good. I based it on some of the exercise that we do during circuit training and also the Jillian Michaels DVD's. I set my timer to 50 seconds and did a couple of circuits of
                  Mountain climbers
                  Push ups -on my knees, (shoulders still to sore to do full push ups)
                  Jumping on and off a box
                  Jumps from side to side.
                  My husband did them with me so i felt obliged to try hard to impress him with my fitness (don't think it worked.)
                  I have had my kids and their friends do a circuit with me in the past. Could you rope the kids in to do it with you, creates a nice competitive edge.

                  I think you should tell us your routine everyday to spur you on. Though as they say it is 90% what you eat.
                  12 weeks is a good amount of time to have, though amazing how quick it goes.
                  That is really interesting about your mum being the only one to emigrate from Germany. What made her do it?
                  Last edited by annedawso; 09-01-2012, 10:23 AM.


                  • Originally posted by annedawso View Post
                    I think you should tell us your routine everyday to spur you on. Though as they say it is 90% what you eat.
                    12 weeks is a good amount of time to have, though amazing how quick it goes.
                    That is really interesting about your mum being the only one to emigrate from Germany. What made her do it?
                    I was actually thinking of doing a quick daily check-in of the YAYOGing. But I have to warn you - I have never in my life done any exercise "routine". In my former life, marching band, bike riding, walking around European cities/the German countryside, helping my grandmother in her garden doing wood chopping, etc.... all that kept me fit without the need for a routine. The first couple of days will be snoozingly boring as I just figure out how to do the exercises at all.

                    Re my mom leaving Germany - I have no true reason why she felt compelled to leave, as she has never told me in straight-forward words. I strongly suspect it was that she had finally had enough of my Oma (my mom's mother). My Oma has made a career and life of being bitter about everything, and it is really hard on the nerves. I left her house after four months because of it. (She and I had an agreement that I would live there for one year while I learned the language, and then I would return to the US and begin my studies.) She is bitter that she ended up as a poor country gal and mother of 5 instead of a posh city chick (she wanted to be in Berlin) and mother of maaaaybe 1.7. And to add insult to injury, none of her kids became rich and important and chic and looked up to - they all had difficult marriages and lives (but one of Oma's sisters did it, so why can't her kids, eh?!?!) And she is still very, very good at making her children feel inadequate and small and ugly. At this point, my uncle (Oma's only son) has bowed out of the family - the last I heard, he basically said "don't call me - I'll call you". She does have a core of goodness in there, but it takes a couple of bottles of that good German white wine in her (so she forgets to be bitter and nasty) to make her funny and normal.

                    I don't think I'll last 24 hours before I miss them horribly (the kids and the hubby), but I'm not the type to ruin a trip due to homesickness, so I know it will be okay. If it gets too bad, then I will just go shopping for them.
                    I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC


                    • I can understand your mum wanting to get away from such a home life. It is very sad that your Oma ( is that a German word) we would say nana or gran, though I know some families have pet names. ) has spent so much of her life being unhappy with her lot in life. There are far worse things than not achieving the social standard in life you would like. Your mum couldn't have chosen much further away.
                      I found in my family as my relatives got older they were more mellow. Maybe they began to realise all the moaning and mean spirited thoughts were getting them nowhere. Unfortunately my grandparents have all died as they were real characters.
                      My mums mum(gran) was from a reasonably wealthy family in Ireland who owned a farm. Unfortunately her mum died when she was young during childbirth. The dad became an alcohollc and drank the farm away.
                      My gran was sent to Liverpool when she was 14 to work as a housemaid. I can still recall her telling me the story of arriving on the boat at Liverpool and getting on a horse and trap.
                      She ended up having 5 kids, was happily married and very religious. Her bedroom was covered in holy pictures and she attended church most days. I can remember her as a cheerful person, never moaning about her aches and pains, always on the go.
                      Funny haveny thought about her for ages.

                      It will be interesting to hear how you get on with your exercise routine. YouTube is great for seeing how to do particular exercises.
                      Plus I find some type of timer a help so you know when the one is up.

                      I know when I have gone away without the kids-work trips etc. I have found tht although I miss them i don't really think about them as I have that much rushing around to do.
                      Good luck with your YAYOG.


                      • Hi all!

                        Where are you? I see nobody has been writing here since Saturday. Thanks for all the good wishes, my family visit went well - which is not always the case. Unfortunately my sister in law as well as their three children are prone to yelling and temper tantrums, so sometimes a visit consists of nothing more than sitting in the kitchen and watching them quarrel. This time everything went calm and even relaxed. The visit in the nursery home was depressing as usual - my mother is in a wheelchair, doesn't recognise anyone any more, and you cannot understand what she says - it all comes out in a mumble that subsides after a few words. She is over eighty and has been that way for years. What a terrible way to live out your life! I wouldn't want to be like this. I so hope that Primal eating and the good omega 3s will keep my from developing dementia ...

                        Fleamarket successes were mixed. It was a small one and didn't attract many visitors; especially as there were several other interesting events in Cologne that Sunday. But I sold some earrings and bracelets and earned the fee that I spent on the stall and a little more - so not a total loss. And I had interesting conversations with the neighbours and met a friend that I hadn't seen since our children were in kindergarten together.

                        Ann, you asked me if I intend to stay single. Yes, I do. I know that this is difficult to understand for many people and a very personal decision. You see, I tend to fall for the wrong kind of men that are not good for me, it's really a pattern, and about ten years ago I decided not to play that game any more. Peace of mind has been the result ... And, as I said, a lifestyle with very little housework.

                        On a Primal note, I'm very interested in hearing how your families view your nutritional changes. What do your children say, do they crave old favourites or do they eat what you cook for them? Are your husbands on board? Have you been eating comparatively "clean" before, or was Primal a big change for you?

                        It's gotten late, and although I hope it reads easily, it takes me longer to write in English than in German. I'm off to watch the latest issue of "Who wants to be a millionaire" on the Internet. Do you like the show? The internet (which I like to refer to as "auntie Google") told me that you have it too in the UK and the US.

                        Hope to read from you soon!


                        • Hi Bess,
                          glad your trip went well, so sad about your mum. They do say that a low carb diet does help prevent Alzheimers, though who knows. I used to worry about the future as to whether I would get something like that but as I have got older I just think what will be will be so what is the point of worrying.
                          I can totally understand you wanting to be single, I have a friend with a young daughter who is exactly the same. I think if I split up from my husband I couldn't be bothered to go through another relationship. You get more set in your ways as you get older. Being married has its ups and downs, not sure if it just my husband but I feel like a servant sometimes. We both work full time yet I do most of the housework, shopping etc. Though I now make sure I go to my classes in the gym regularly, at one time I used to think I should leave it and tidy up.
                          Don't know where Crabbcakes is, she may be that busy doing YAYOG she hasn't got time to post!!!

                          Re my family and Primal. Well over the last few months my husband has gone 80% primal, he does have the odd slice of bread and one bowl of porridge a day but has really cut out down on all the non processed food. He has had amazing results as he trains most days and plays football a couple of times a week.
                          My eldest is studying pharmacy but is very open minded to a paleo lifestyle. He is always asking me questions about whether
                          certain foods are good for him or not. He has also listened to a few podcasts by Robb Wolf etc. My two eldest are both into fitness and I like to think that as they get older they will make their own decisions and see paleo lifestyles as the way to live.
                          Not sure about my 9 year old, he is a chocolate addict. Although we let him have some each day we have stopped the sugary yogurts, fizzy drinks etc and he isn't allowed rubbish cereals eg coco pops. If he is hungry he is allowed a piece of cheese or ham rather than a carbohydrate snack.
                          Though I must admit they all think I am a little obsessed with a paleo lifestyle!!!
                          Who wants to Be a Millionaire - used to watch it but not anymore. Don't really watch quiz shows.Spend too much time on the internet.
                          Speak to you later.


                          • I've just been busy... and my big computer is having problems, so I am tapping this out on a Samsung tablet, and that is really slow going. Blech. I'll try to fix the bug and write more later today.
                            I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC


                            • Hi all!

                              Crabbcakes - so sorry to hear about your computer. Bug = virus? That's a real nuisance. Hope to read from you soon again!

                              Anne, it looks like your family is on a good way with primal. Isn't it unfair that men seem to get faster results with low carb / primal? But of course congratulations to your husband for his success! And it's great that your oldest son is so interested in primal. I think the youngest will learn by your example. He is still growing, so a piece of chocolate a day won't kill him if the rest of his food is mostly primal. Maybe he will develop a taste for hearty rather than sweet snacks when you keep offering them to him. My parents told me that, as a child, I used to ask for extra sausage or cheese instead of sweets. Must have lost my way somewhere down the line though ...

                              Have a nice day all!


                              • Had a very long day (for me ) in work today 8am to 6:30pm as doing a finance return.
                                Shouldn't moan as I know a lot of people work these hours and longer regularly. I normally only do a 7 hr day.
                                Going on a my annual girls weekend away on Friday. Hubby goes on a golf holiday each year so I thought - what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Wonder if you have heard that saying before?
                                We will be having a chill out weekend - visiting a spa, reading loads of magazines, eating out and watching feel good films.
                                Rather looking forward to it.
                                The next time I will be off work is Christmas. My 9 year old found out earlier this year that there is no Father Christmas. Glad in a way as he used to just assume he could get whatever he wanted. My husband reckons its the end of the magic.
                                Went to circuit training monday so keeping on top of my exercise regime. Gym doesn't closed until 10pm so may force myself to go at 9pm. Though may not.