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  • Fish Oil NOT Good For YOu?!

    I was shocked and worried to read these posts, wondering what others think about them?

    https://chriskresser.com/should-you-...king-fish-oil/

    http://chriskresser.com/when-it-come...is-not-better/

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    I agree with Chris, regarding supplementation, but the benefits are enormous when ingested as whole foods.
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    • #3
      so you mean, don't take pills, eat fish?

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      • #4
        Yes. Ideally, bivalves like oysters and mussels; next, crustaceans like shrimp; next, cold water ocean fish like salmon, mackerel, cod. Go for fish that are high DHA with iodine sources.
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        • #5
          wow interesting, if you have time, would be interested in the WHY of that list ... do bivalves and crustaceans have DHA/iodine?!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by liam8888 View Post
            wow interesting, if you have time, would be interested in the WHY of that list ... do bivalves and crustaceans have DHA/iodine?!
            Bivalves have the greatest concentration, followed by crustaceans, followed by cold water fish. Iodine is protective of DHA against oxidation, a benefit lost when fish oil is extracted and used as a supplement.
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            • #7
              Awesome, thanks!

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              • #8
                Fish oil is degenerative. It's probably worse in pills but I would still avoid fatty fish. The unsaturated fatty acids are unstable and break down into toxins, among other problems.
                Originally posted by John Caton
                Iodine is protective of DHA against oxidation
                Can you demonstrate this?
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                • #9
                  so you are agreeing with Kresser that fish oil supplementation is NOT a good idea?

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                  • #10
                    any concerns with mercury and other toxins/poluttants? know a good source for these foods? wonder if there is a place like eatwild.com but for seafood?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by liam8888 View Post
                      so you are agreeing with Kresser that fish oil supplementation is NOT a good idea?
                      I'm honestly too lazy at the moment to read his articles and see exactly what his stance is, but I think ingesting fish oil is a bad idea, regardless of whether it's coming from a pill or a whole fish.
                      My opinions and some justification

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                      • #12
                        Refining and deodorizing lipids from any source usually ends poorly--the supplements have major freshness concerns, and more marketing than evidence.

                        Requirements for O3 decrease on a low-O6 diet. Nevertheless salmon and sardines probably deserve a place in the protein rotation for overall nutrients, and to balance the inevitable O6 of which even beef & eggs contain a bit.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Elliot View Post
                          I'm honestly too lazy at the moment to read his articles and see exactly what his stance is, but I think ingesting fish oil is a bad idea, regardless of whether it's coming from a pill or a whole fish.
                          Why do you include whole fish in your condemnation? Are there whole fish studies to support your statement or is it your opinion?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by John Caton View Post
                            Why do you include whole fish in your condemnation? Are there whole fish studies to support your statement or is it your opinion?
                            Here's one of the only two relevant trials done on whole fish:

                            http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12571649
                            Risk of cardiac death was higher among subjects advised to take oily fish than among those not so advised; the adjusted hazard ratio was 1.26 (95% confidence interval 1.00, 1.58; P=0.047), and even greater for sudden cardiac death (1.54; 95% CI 1.06, 2.23; P=0.025).
                            Granted, the next part reads:
                            The excess risk was largely located among the subgroup given fish oil capsules.
                            So the study makes whole fish look neutral or slightly harmful.

                            Looking at the evidence collectively, fish oil appears to be gradually degenerative, and putting it inside a fish does not seem to fix the problem.
                            My opinions and some justification

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Elliot View Post
                              Here's one of the only two relevant trials done on whole fish:

                              http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12571649

                              Granted, the next part reads:
                              So the study makes whole fish look neutral or slightly harmful.

                              Looking at the evidence collectively, fish oil appears to be gradually degenerative, and putting it inside a fish does not seem to fix the problem.
                              Fish seem to do OK with it and their cellular membranes, retinas and neurons aren't so different than ours.
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