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  • Rolomoto
    started a topic Avoiding Sun Exposure is as Deadly as Smoking

    Avoiding Sun Exposure is as Deadly as Smoking

    Interesting post by a doctor of homeopath. Among other things he says the top sun tan companies are owned by big pharma.

    https://www.facebook.com/WitchDocTim...302050151202:0

  • AmberLodge
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    Thanks for sharing this information.

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  • John Caton
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    Originally posted by coolrain View Post
    If sunlight is anti-aging, how come those who spend much time outdoors get premature face wrinkles and many unsightly dark sun spots all over their exposed arms and backs? How come, in the same person, the skin that is normally exposed to the sun (such as face & backsides of hands) ages much much faster than the skin that is not? I read that sunlight is responsible for 80% of skin aging. From observation, I agree with that statement.
    Time of day is the determining factor. The damaging effects of UV-B from late morning to mid-afternoon are well documented, although moderate exposure elevates vitamin D. Early morning exposure to infrared sunlight is anti-inflammatory and late morning exposure up to 10 AM to high UV-A stimulates daytime hormonal release that increases energy output. After 10 AM, the UV-B exposure needs to be carefully monitored, especially by fair skinned and other sensitive types.

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  • OnTheBayou
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    Originally posted by sharperhawk View Post
    I have been supplementing vitamin D3 for about a year. I was traveling for three weeks in April and got a lot more sun than I usually do. I wore sunscreen and a hat, but I still got a tan on my face and neck. Those areas are still darker than the rest of me. In the past, I would always burn and peel. I attribute the difference to the vitamin D. Now the advice to ramp up sun exposure gradually makes sense to me. Someone using the sun alone would be bootstrapping — slowly building up the D (and whatever else comes with that) and getting some resistance.
    I think you discovered the "more Vitamin D reduces sun's damages" effect. I've been supp'ing D for 7 years, ramping up to 10,000 IU's daily. (Interestingly, my blood serum D has dropped over the years. From very high but OK to nice normal, better than most, still. I attribute that either to aging, or perhaps the body is self regulating to excellent but normal.) I noticed that compared to when I was young, I can't/don't get as dark. But I never, ever use sunscreen except on my nose with rosacea, and I always have a clean dermatological bill of health. Many hours in the Florida sun, yard work and biking to the beaches.

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  • sharperhawk
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    I have been supplementing vitamin D3 for about a year. I was traveling for three weeks in April and got a lot more sun than I usually do. I wore sunscreen and a hat, but I still got a tan on my face and neck. Those areas are still darker than the rest of me. In the past, I would always burn and peel. I attribute the difference to the vitamin D. Now the advice to ramp up sun exposure gradually makes sense to me. Someone using the sun alone would be bootstrapping — slowly building up the D (and whatever else comes with that) and getting some resistance.

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  • OnTheBayou
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    Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
    Honestly I haven't noticed this at all. Usually I see those that are tanned and in the sun frequently have very healthy looking skin. Guess my observations don't correlate with yours. Maybe like some stated above you are looking at previous or current smokes and/or those with poor other lifestyle factors.
    It's like anything, it can be overdone.

    Some years ago for quite awhile my best friend was black. His ex-wife and her sister would not date white men. Had a thing. They listen only to black radio, and laid out in the sun as much as they could. The wanted to look black, too. By age forty their faces were similar to alligator's skin.

    Ironically, if you look at the faces of black women, they age very, very slowly. Remembering that I'm 70, my gf two years ago was black, age 63, and without exaggeration she could have passed for 35. Hardly a white hair, even.

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  • Shelly6
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    Originally posted by ToldUzo View Post
    Probably because there is such a thing as too much sun exposure (plus it depends on the wavelenght). Also many people with wrinkles are/have been smokers which ages the skin badly.
    But too Little sun exposure is bad for health. Gotta find the sweet spot!
    As much as I love to sunbathe, I find that simply laying and baking in the sun produces skin that looks much more potato-ey than I would prefer. But moving, working, gardening, swimming, etc produces a really nice "even tan" that so many people are after, and it doesn't seem to produce so many wrinkles (at least, it doesn't seem to produce so many so quickly) and I wonder if the movement itself produces areas of shade (for your body) that gives your skin a break.
    I have no evidence or proof and don't even know if it's true, but it's just my own n=1 that I've noticed in the past few years. I rather enjoy NOT looking like a deep fried leather hand bag

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  • Neckhammer
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    Originally posted by coolrain View Post
    If sunlight is anti-aging, how come those who spend much time outdoors get premature face wrinkles and many unsightly dark sun spots all over their exposed arms and backs? How come, in the same person, the skin that is normally exposed to the sun (such as face & backsides of hands) ages much much faster than the skin that is not? I read that sunlight is responsible for 80% of skin aging. From observation, I agree with that statement.
    Honestly I haven't noticed this at all. Usually I see those that are tanned and in the sun frequently have very healthy looking skin. Guess my observations don't correlate with yours. Maybe like some stated above you are looking at previous or current smokes and/or those with poor other lifestyle factors.
    Last edited by Neckhammer; 06-30-2016, 09:07 AM.

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  • Paysan
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    FWIW, I've read astaxanthin prevents a lot of sun damage in skin; so I'd presume a high antioxidant intake would be protective of both inside and outside of a person.

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  • ToldUzo
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    Originally posted by coolrain View Post
    If sunlight is anti-aging, how come those who spend much time outdoors get premature face wrinkles and many unsightly dark sun spots all over their exposed arms and backs? How come, in the same person, the skin that is normally exposed to the sun (such as face & backsides of hands) ages much much faster than the skin that is not? I read that sunlight is responsible for 80% of skin aging. From observation, I agree with that statement.
    Probably because there is such a thing as too much sun exposure (plus it depends on the wavelenght). Also many people with wrinkles are/have been smokers which ages the skin badly.
    But too Little sun exposure is bad for health. Gotta find the sweet spot!

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  • OnTheBayou
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    Originally posted by coolrain View Post
    If sunlight is anti-aging, how come those who spend much time outdoors get premature face wrinkles and many unsightly dark sun spots all over their exposed arms and backs? How come, in the same person, the skin that is normally exposed to the sun (such as face & backsides of hands) ages much much faster than the skin that is not? I read that sunlight is responsible for 80% of skin aging. From observation, I agree with that statement.
    I think we are conditioned to think of aging as external and visible. There is also internal aging, and sunlight certainly helps inside.

    I've concluded that almost everything we consume or do has both an upside and a downside. It's a constant juggling act.

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  • coolrain
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    If sunlight is anti-aging, how come those who spend much time outdoors get premature face wrinkles and many unsightly dark sun spots all over their exposed arms and backs? How come, in the same person, the skin that is normally exposed to the sun (such as face & backsides of hands) ages much much faster than the skin that is not? I read that sunlight is responsible for 80% of skin aging. From observation, I agree with that statement.

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  • John Caton
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    Originally posted by bcbcbc2 View Post
    Does this mean fear of OVER-exposure to the sun is nonsense?

    Or just that there is a 'u shaped curve'?
    Fear of over exposure is not nonsense. UV-B, beneficial for vitamin D, can also be damaging to skin and eyes, relative to individual sensitivity. High intensity sunlight, regardless of color frequency, can damage eyes, despite the benefits of reasonable exposure and intensity.

    The promotion of early morning exposure for red and infrared benefits is a fairly new initiative, but certainly direct exposure of the eyes at that intensity should be with a degree of caution.

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  • bcbcbc2
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    Does this mean fear of OVER-exposure to the sun is nonsense?

    Or just that there is a 'u shaped curve'?

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  • perennialpam
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    And there is that....thanks for all the info on our precious Sun.

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