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Been primal for two months, my cholesterol total is 400...WHAT?

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  • MamaGrok
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    Originally posted by Sue View Post
    Meghan, I think he did all primal and it jumped to 400.
    If I understand correctly, the OP has no idea what the levels were pre-primal, only that they were 400 after a few months primal and jumped up to 435 after a month or so back on grains. So Meghan's right, it seems they could well have been even higher pre-primal.

    Originally posted by O_O View Post
    Arcy I do know of someone who was eating a healthy low carb diet <40g digestible and her cholesterol had gone up quite high. I don't remember what she called it but her issue is genetic. She was advised to take meds and they have been correcting the problem.

    I am not recommending or in favor of meds in general but sometimes they are beneficial.
    Again, show the evidence that taking statins improves overall outcome and decreases death rate for *anyone*. Genetic factors only matter if the person is eating a diet that triggers those factors. Sure, the drugs may lower cholesterol, but it's like lowering a fever without lowering the cause - you aren't actually doing anything for the illness, if one exists. It's like removing firefighters from the scene b/c you've noticed that every time there's a horrible fire, there are a bunch of firefighters around.

    Where is the evidence for the CW model of treatment?

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  • john_e_turner_ii
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    I was on a "good" diet up until this time last year. I had perfect cholesterol numbers. When I switched to PB, my cholesterol skyrocketed. My doctors advised the same thing by taking statins. However, my private physician agreed for me to test my LDL further, and the results were fine. I feel good, so I see no reason to take any medications.

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  • Primal Fist
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    This post should be required reading for anyone entering the site...

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  • Sue
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    Dr Harris has a post on FH and statins.
    Www.paleonu.com

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  • O_O
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    Arcy eating cholesterol doesn't typically raise cholesterol. It could be different if cholesterol issues are genetically based. The liver uses saturated fat to make cholesterol. I was surprised to hear Dr Oz even say eggs don't raise cholesterol and to eat coconut oil. Slowly he is coming around.

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  • O_O
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    Arcy I do know of someone who was eating a healthy low carb diet <40g digestible and her cholesterol had gone up quite high. I don't remember what she called it but her issue is genetic. She was advised to take meds and they have been correcting the problem.

    I am not recommending or in favor of meds in general but sometimes they are beneficial.

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  • Sue
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    Meghan, I think he did all primal and it jumped to 400.

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  • NutMeg
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    Was that increase to 435 after you had let grains slip back into your diet?

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  • jnmarz30
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    I really like this summary - it's an easy read and well written. http://thehealthyskeptic.org/the-mos...ut-cholesterol

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  • jammies
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    Just want to check - are you sure you were fasting before your test? Every now and then people forget and have coffee with cream or a little breakfast. It can really alter your results.

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  • O_O
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    I've been eating a controlled carb lifestyle for a few years. I wanted to get a subfraction lipoprotein profile but it isn't offered where I am. Canadian mmol/L American conversion mg/dL.

    Cholesterol - 4.01 mmol/L (156.39 mg/dL)
    Triglycerides - 0.28 mmol/L (24.92 mg/dL)
    HDL - 2.28 mmol/L (88.92 mg/dL)
    LDL - 1.61 mmol/L (62.79 mg/dL)
    Cholesterol/HDL Ratio - 2

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  • Sue
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    Arcy, if you go back to grain they may cause the triglycerides to go from good to bad. Do you know if your LDL is the large, fluffy kind?
    Those with hereditary high cholesterol usually are on statins. But I think some live a perfectly normal life with high hereditary cholesterol with no incidence of heart attack etc. We see people having heart attack with high and low cholesterol levels.
    I would definitely reduce some of your fat in diet. Go to the Heart Scan Blog for some more info.
    http://www.heartscanblog.org/
    http://www.heartscanblog.org/search/label/Cholesterol
    http://www.heartscanblog.org/2010/02...large-ldl.html
    http://www.heartscanblog.org/search/...Statin%20drugs
    Last edited by Sue; 02-14-2011, 07:26 PM.

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  • Arcy
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    Thanks you guys for the replies... I hope I don't sound whiny but I'm kind of freaked out. Aside from the cholesterol, being Primal has been great! Giving up grains and sugars was easy once I discovered how many amazing things you can make with avocados and eggs... but then when my numbers came back I cut back on eggs and a lot of red meat and was therefore starving all the time so I started to slip back into eating grains. Its kind of frustrating... I do realize that I hadn't had my cholesterol taken for a few years prior to going primal...so it might not even be all those eggs causing it!
    Last edited by Arcy; 02-14-2011, 05:51 PM.

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  • emyinpink
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    One other thing to look at, have you had your thyroid numbers tested? I had unusually high cholesterol numbers (worked crazy hard trying to get them under control with diet), and when I finally saw a naturopathic MD, he ran some detailed thyroid tests. I have hashimoto's (autoimmune thyroid disease), and am hypothyroid. High cholesterol is actually a common symptom. I'm now on medication (though looking into natural thyroid options), and eating primal, and it seems to be helping.

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  • DianeThePurple
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    Have you read Griff's cholesterol primer? There are a lot of replies in that thread. I'm sure that there are some with numbers comparable to yours.

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