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  • #31
    I was on a "good" diet up until this time last year. I had perfect cholesterol numbers. When I switched to PB, my cholesterol skyrocketed. My doctors advised the same thing by taking statins. However, my private physician agreed for me to test my LDL further, and the results were fine. I feel good, so I see no reason to take any medications.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Sue View Post
      Meghan, I think he did all primal and it jumped to 400.
      If I understand correctly, the OP has no idea what the levels were pre-primal, only that they were 400 after a few months primal and jumped up to 435 after a month or so back on grains. So Meghan's right, it seems they could well have been even higher pre-primal.

      Originally posted by O_O View Post
      Arcy I do know of someone who was eating a healthy low carb diet <40g digestible and her cholesterol had gone up quite high. I don't remember what she called it but her issue is genetic. She was advised to take meds and they have been correcting the problem.

      I am not recommending or in favor of meds in general but sometimes they are beneficial.
      Again, show the evidence that taking statins improves overall outcome and decreases death rate for *anyone*. Genetic factors only matter if the person is eating a diet that triggers those factors. Sure, the drugs may lower cholesterol, but it's like lowering a fever without lowering the cause - you aren't actually doing anything for the illness, if one exists. It's like removing firefighters from the scene b/c you've noticed that every time there's a horrible fire, there are a bunch of firefighters around.

      Where is the evidence for the CW model of treatment?
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      • #33
        The increase happened while I was still nearly 100% grain free. Doc suspects that I may have familiar hypercholesterolemia (still waiting for test confirmation) in this case it seems that statins may be appropriate... I'm going to see a specialist at Hopkins in April but I just don't know WHAT to eat before then since the doc suggested I cut fats back to 30% or less...

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        • #34
          What is your daily carb intake??? AND what kind of carbs are part of that daily intake?
          Please don't self fulfill and seal your fate with the 'modern numbers' hysteria. How do
          you really feel apart from those 'modern numbers' coming from a 'modern doctor'?
          If you feel bad or not optimum, then yes, seek some worthy help that is well rehearsed
          in this diet. Not a modern doctor. Best wishes.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Arcy View Post
            The increase happened while I was still nearly 100% grain free. Doc suspects that I may have familiar hypercholesterolemia (still waiting for test confirmation) in this case it seems that statins may be appropriate... I'm going to see a specialist at Hopkins in April but I just don't know WHAT to eat before then since the doc suggested I cut fats back to 30% or less...
            Did you read the paleonu blog post I linked to. He talks about FH.

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            • #36
              Statins have only been shown to be effective for middle aged men who've had a heart attack or similar. If you don't meet all three criteria then you have no reason to risk them
              Four years Primal with influences from Jaminet & Shanahan and a focus on being anti-inflammatory. Using Primal to treat CVD and prevent stents from blocking free of drugs.

              Eat creatures nose-to-tail (animal, fowl, fish, crustacea, molluscs), a large variety of vegetables (raw, cooked and fermented, including safe starches), dairy (cheese & yoghurt), occasional fruit, cocoa, turmeric & red wine

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              • #37
                I missed it actually. That was actually very informative and helpful, thank you!

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                • #38
                  Another one by Davis on statins and FH:
                  http://www.paleonu.com/panu-weblog/2...is-part-i.html

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                  • #39
                    I'm sorry to bump this thread again (last time I promise!) but I just wanted to give a quick update and also thank you guys for your very helpful advice. After a slew of blood tests I have been diagnosed with Familial hypercholesterolemia. (My cholesterol total has been steadily climbing even still up to 438 now, LDL-P is at 2600. Basically, my levels are above average even in other females my age with FH.) I've carefully considered both points of view when it comes to statins but in this case since I've decided to take my doctor's advice and go on statins at least for a while until I can get it back down into a more normal range. I don't want to be on them for my entire life, but I think it is the best decision at this point.

                    I guess the point I'm at now is that I'm wondering if I can continue with the Paleo diet despite the doc's recommendation to cut out essentially all saturated fat intake, or if I could replace the eggs and bacon with other types of fat.

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                    • #40
                      Whether or not you believe that cholesterol causes disease, you should be aware that there are no studies that show statins to be beneficial for females.

                      Saturated fat intake drives HDL, which drives total cholesterol.

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                      • #41
                        The liver also uses saturated fat to make LDL cholesterol.

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                        • #42
                          Have you been advised to take a CoQ10 supplement? If not then google it to find out why.

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                          • #43
                            @ AndreaReina: I've read that numerous times, but I decided to "play ball" so to say with my doctor. (He is the leading Lipid specialist at Johns Hopkins, if this guy doesn't know what he is talking about then the world of medicine is in a sad sorry state.) I'm not putting 100% trust in this guy's hands, but I'm going to give it a chance for a little while to hopefully get the number down.

                            @ 0_0: I'm 1/2 way through reading Good Calories Bad Calories (I'm an artist who draws dragons and robots...reading this book has been flexing some brain muscles I haven't exercised in a while haha) and it has me convinced the fact that eating cholesterol doesn't raise cholesterol. Its also made me extremely skeptical....Also I'm taking a Fish Oil supplement.

                            @mozzy10 I haven't even heard of that, I'll check it out.
                            Last edited by Arcy; 03-09-2011, 01:30 PM.

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                            • #44
                              Don't worry about the eggs.

                              In case you don't know who Colette is she is the nutritionist for Atkins and worked under him.

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                              • #45
                                I'd have a frank discussion with your doctor. You could highlght some of the medical references prior to going in.

                                There time is often short so be prepared in how to open the discussion if you decide to try it. I do this with my doctor. She is open and does listen.

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