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    I need help. I've grown dependent on colonics, and I'm not sure what to do to escape. I know that colonics deplete the gut of flora, but nothing else seems to give me relief.

    I don't eat grains, dairy (cept butter/ghee), nightshades, nuts, fruit, etc. The only sugary things I eat are butternut squash and carrots. I eat 2-4 tablespoons of coconut oil every day. I take a pretty broad and strong dose of probiotics daily (VSL #3, FemDophilus, rotations of Saccaromyces Boulardii, etc).

    I eat homemade yogurt daily (using macadamia nuts, coconut water, probiotic powder, and a yogurt maker).

    I'm getting about 50-70 grams of protein a day in the form of poultry, eggs, and whey protein. I am 110 pounds.

    I know candida has been excessive in the past, but I feel like it is somewhat under control, although I do still get oral thrush, but I have no sugar cravings.

    My sleep has improved as a of late, so I am starting to exercise more ([I am quite out of shape).

    I've also been eating bone broth on more and more of a daily basis; I got some quality grass-fed marrow bones from U.S. Wellness Meats.

    Sometimes magnesium citrate does the trick, and sometimes it doesn't. I take Betaine HCl with and after most of my meals; I know I have low stomach acid because it takes a lot for me to feel that slight burn. I also take glutamine, black walnut, cod liver with butter oil, and a multivitamin. They are all allergen free. There is some maltodextrin and magnesium stearate in some of my supplements, but I didn't notice much difference when I avoided it.

    What am I missing? Any advice would be much appreciated.
    Last edited by nutritionut; 07-07-2011, 06:28 AM.

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    Relief from?
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    • #3
      ProSynbiotic fromStandard Process availible via Amazon. Take a bottle a week for 3 weeks, eat a ton of Fage Full fat. Expect to gain in the sort term. stop any other supplementation. Let nature take it course
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      • #4
        Originally posted by loafingcactus View Post
        Relief from?
        chronic constipation, abdominal pain.

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          Originally posted by quelsen View Post
          ProSynbiotic fromStandard Process availible via Amazon. Take a bottle a week for 3 weeks, eat a ton of Fage Full fat. Expect to gain in the sort term. stop any other supplementation. Let nature take it course
          I looked up fage full fat, and I'm still not entirely sure what it is...full fat yogurt?

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          • #6
            I would also suggesting having the abdominal pain medically evaluated, if you have not already done so. You'll want to rule out intestinal growths and the like.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by loafingcactus View Post
              I would also suggesting having the abdominal pain medically evaluated, if you have not already done so. You'll want to rule out intestinal growths and the like.
              too right

              also the active cultures in yougurt will help
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              • #8
                Originally posted by loafingcactus View Post
                I would also suggesting having the abdominal pain medically evaluated, if you have not already done so. You'll want to rule out intestinal growths and the like.
                How does one rule intestinal growths out? A stool test?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by nutritionut View Post
                  I looked up fage full fat, and I'm still not entirely sure what it is...full fat yogurt?
                  Fage is a brand of greek yogurt that apparently people go nuts for. I hate yogurt, but my husband eats it & says that the Fage brand is OK. I know you can get it at Whole Foods and Walmart.

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                  • #10
                    A colonoscopy, other GI tests are upper and lower GI tests

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                    • #11
                      seems like a lot of micro management of your diet - is it possible the pain could be related to stress?
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                      • #12
                        You've consulted a doctor, right?

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                        • #13
                          Did the constipation come before or after a good diet?

                          If the only way you can evacuate your bowels is with colonic therapy, yeah, you need to see a doctor.

                          Is it possible your body has become dependent on them, like it becomes dependent on things such as nasal spray and laxatives? The only way to fix that is to stop using it and let your body do what it does. It'll take a while before it rights itself.

                          I'd stop the colonics though - not only does it disturb your gut flora, but dehydrates you and can/will mess up your electrolytes as well. It's Kellogg quackery.

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                          • #14
                            You don't mention them, but are you adding any dietary fiber supplements to your diet? These can be problematic and addictive as well. For a very interesting website focused on gut health take a look at :

                            GutSense.org

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                            • #15
                              Fasting, as in nothing but water for a few days, is a wonderful way to give the system a rest, and when you reintroduce foods, make sure they are primal, enough protein and fat--poultry and fish as easy to digest, plenty of green veg, a small amount of low sugar fruits. I've done lots of fasts, and they are very curative. Watch any other animal that gets sick, they quite eating; people used to do this too, but modern humans just keep shoveling it in. I do at least two five-ten day fasts a year, and have done two 30day fasts; it's easy, though lots of people aren't willing to put up with the uncomfortable first couple of days to get to the benefits. If you do fast, drink at least 8oz of water per hour, and mineral water at least once during the day for the bit of sodium and potassium. Normally, a faster will have no more than one bowel movement in the course of the fast. Laxatives and colonics create dependence, so it does take action to get on the other side of that to healthy, normal bowel health. If you can do eveen three days, you would probably correct the problem.
                              Last edited by Digby; 07-08-2011, 10:08 AM.
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