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  • Ayla2010
    started a topic What would you do?

    What would you do?

    I posted last week about losing weight too slow just due to pure impatience really. I did go to dr to get blood tests mainly for thyroid. He checked my sugar levels due to being so over weight and because my dad has diabetes.
    I hadn't had anything for 6 hours and what I'd had was a bp coffee and the level was over 9 (shoul be up to 7)

    I had the blood tests he ordered the following morning fasted.

    Insulin was 150 m/U/L (normal fasting is 0-10 mU/L)
    Glucose was 7.7 mmol/L (3 - 5.4 mmol/L)
    Thyroid tests were all in normal range.
    He says I have diabetes and wants me on metformin .

    It's only been about 3 months of 100% primal after 12 years of various diets/bingeing. He seems to agree the damage was done from all the years of eating that way.
    He also suggested I keep eating low carb primal.

    But I am not sure about taking metformin.

    Would you?
    Is it likely after while longer eating primarily it will rectify without drugs?
    I only lost 4 kg in jan. plus I've always lost weight slowly no matter the method

  • Ayla2010
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    OK so that stuff is OK, just insulin and glucose not so much.
    I will go back for other tests tomorrow, then wait a week to see the Dr again like he said. But I will wait to take the metformin till I get the insulin levels back again. I am not convinced its right. Surely its too high to be right. I eat no sugar

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  • marcadav
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    Those numbers look pretty good. Your FT4 is at 49% of its range. Your FT3 is at 77%. Your FT3 is higher in percentage than your FT4, indicating good T4 to T3 conversion.

    Many people feel best when their frees are at midpoint or better.

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  • Ayla2010
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    My dad has type 2 diabetes, and is on Metformin. I just spoke to him, and he said his levels weren't staying down, and they want him on Insulin. He said he never lost weight on Metformin, but eats healthy. Of course his version of healthy is prob not quite the same as mine.But he does drink a lot of beer, so that probably has something to do with it. But don't diabetes get told to go quite low carb anyway? I think he said something about low carb.

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  • Ayla2010
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    Originally posted by marcadav View Post
    I really like this site for blood sugar issues:
    Blood Sugar 101

    I would be interested in actually seeing your thyroid results. I am living proof that being "in the normal range" doesn't mean optimally healthy.
    TSH (mIU/L) - May 2012 - 1.32 Feb 2013 - 1.36 (0.35-5.50)
    Free T4 (pmol/L) May 2012 - 15.7 Feb 2013 - 16.8 (9.0-25.0)
    Free T3 (pmol/L) May 2012 - 4.6 Feb 2013 - 5.8 (3.5-6.5)

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  • heatseeker
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    If your fasting insulin is that high, it's Type 2, not Type 1. Type 1 is when the body attacks its own insulin-producing cells in the pancreas, rendering them unable to produce insulin anymore, and blood sugar can then rage out of control very easily. If there's that much insulin in your blood, your pancreas is obviously able to produce it. As far as I know (I could be wrong on this), Type 1 is genetic, not caused by diet. It can differ in presentation and age of onset, but it requires a lack of insulin production.

    Type 2, OTOH, is when your body is, for whatever reason--most people, it's too much sugar ingestion--pumping so much insulin into the bloodstream that the cells become "accustomed" to it (insulin resistant, in other words) and stop trying to use it to put away sugar. So your blood has both too much sugar and too much insulin in it, and can use/store neither.

    (Those are extremely simplified and generalized explanations of T1/T2 diabetes; but all I wanted to do was clarify that your diabetes is almost certainly Type 2.)

    Type 2 can definitely be controlled with diet and lifestyle, whereas it's rare to be a Type 1 diabetic and not be on some kind of medication, usually injected insulin.
    Last edited by heatseeker; 02-10-2013, 09:57 PM.

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  • marcadav
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    Originally posted by Ayla2010 View Post
    Ill post them shortly.
    Are you taking anything for your thyroid
    Yes, for over 12 years now--generic Unithroid and Cytomel. For most of those years I was kept under treated and ill because of those damn "normal ranges".

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  • Ayla2010
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    Originally posted by marcadav View Post
    I really like this site for blood sugar issues:
    Blood Sugar 101h

    I would be interested in actually seeing your thyroid results. I am living proof that being "in the normal range" doesn't mean optimally healthy.
    Ill post them shortly.
    Are you taking anything for your thyroid

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  • marcadav
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    I really like this site for blood sugar issues:
    Blood Sugar 101

    I would be interested in actually seeing your thyroid results. I am living proof that being "in the normal range" doesn't mean optimally healthy.

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  • Terry H
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    Ok, you have Primal Blueprint in your toolbox now, along with a monitor, all good. Now adding medication is simply another tool at this point in time to combat diabetes, and if possible(and this is definitely feasible), eventually nip it in the bud through diet (and exercise) alone. By all means read the links folks have provided, but don't dally. Good luck and we hope to share with you your successes! The PB is a wonderful and effective weapon to fight with against metabolic issues such as this. Daily I reiterate to myself what my goals are: to eat with my health and longevity in view. I want my BG to be in this range-I will check my blood sugars diligently- I will not be just another statistic due to complications, etc. You can do this.
    Last edited by Terry H; 02-10-2013, 09:24 PM.

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  • seaweed
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    i know a few older men with type 2 and they pretty much control it by exercise. i dont know any details other than that.

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  • Ayla2010
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    He didn't say which type.
    I now have a blood sugar monitor to check my own levels.

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  • Ayla2010
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    I have the book but haven't read it yet.
    I will go back for other tests tomorrow, he wants me to start metformin straight after and see him in a week.

    It just shows the the damage years of bad eating can be. And how long it can take to fix it.

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  • seaweed
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    did he say if it was type 1 or type 2 daibetes? didnt phiney and volek write a book about diabetes? here i found it!
    The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living: An Expert Guide to Making the Life-Saving Benefits of Carbohydrate Restriction Sustainable and Enjoyable: Stephen D. Phinney, Jeff S. Volek: 9780983490708: Amazon.com: Books

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    I would take the Metformin. I don't know what a fasting insulin concentration of 15 times normal translates to in terms of A1C, exactly, but I'm going to assume that's sky high as well. I think any damn thing you can to do restore insulin sensitivity is a good thing, and that includes taking the drug.

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