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  • Nstocks
    started a topic I'm desperate for advice.

    I'm desperate for advice.

    Hello,

    I'm not sure where to start so I guess I'll just write out whatever comes to me first.

    I'm constantly bloated. I mean CONSTANTLY. After every meal, even after a glass of water I feel bloated. In bed, when I wake up, after going to the toilet, still bloated.

    I still suffer from mild acne (male, 22) and I've tried everything there is, except antibiotics. Don't get me wrong, my 'skin' is OK,but I have constant painful inflamed spots on my jawline and sometimes new my chin. Shaving with an electric razor makes no difference. my forehead and cheeks are 100% clear. I use sesame oil to cleanse and occasionally jojoba oil to moisturise. Nothing else, other than water has touched my face for over a year( other than occasionally honey and clay masks)

    I've hard dark under eye circles for about 5 years. Tried creams, facial massages and neti pot.

    I've definitely been on and off Paleo and sugar detoxes but none of these seem to make much difference than if I eat sweets for dinner. (which I don't do anymore!) I've haven't had grains for about 6 months, just some poor quality sweets/chocolate occasionally in the past.

    I have though, been 100% modified Paleo for the past 5 weeks. No FODMAPS, Eggs,Nuts, Nightshades, Pork, Dairy, limited greens.

    I've gone through all of the superfoods and now I take:
    Vitamin D sublingual 3000IU
    3-4 litres homemade bone broth (Organic grassed) per week
    400mg Magnesium at night for 2 months
    NOW foods super enzymes twice daily (with every meal, I don't eat breakfast so fast for 14-16 hours) for 6 weeks
    Brewer's Yeast 3-4 table spoons per week for 4 weeks
    Just recently stopped Green pastures FCLO butter blend having taken that for 14 months
    Probiotic: Sauerkraut everyday (the only FODMAP I eat) for 5 months
    Probiotic: Recently ran out of Prescript Assist (daily) and now take Bio Kult (once per day) - 2 weeks
    Epson salt baths 1 cup per week
    Dry body brush daily

    I drink a variety of herbal teas including ginger, liquorice, marshmallow, red clover leaf and a few other blends. 2-3 litres of filtered water but only when I'm thirsty, not for the sake of it.

    Sleep is between 23:00 and wake no earlier than 10:00 most of the time.
    Stress is fairly manageable which has helped with my cold hands and feet
    I only work part time so my job stress isn't really a factor
    I live with my family who eat only processed junk which is hard, not because I want some but because they don't share the same interests as me which makes me slightly lonely.
    Moderate stretch/yoga movement 90 minutes per week max
    30 minutes sunshine per week
    I've made sure that I'm deep breathing all of the time
    Toilet visits are most of the time daily, but what comes out is very minimal, hard dark stools most of the time.
    I also tried the low stomach acid test with baking soda and nothing happened at all.

    Plus all of the usual stuff, fish 4x per week. All organic grass fed meat. Organic produce. Probably eat 2 pieces of fruit per week. No more than 100g carbs on average per day. Just started to eat dark chocolate again and kale chips as snacks.

    I think that's it. I really don't know what to do anymore. I've been reading that L-glutamine helps a lot of people with SIBO/Bloating and skin problems but it's just more expense that may not work. I really don't think magnesium has made any difference for me.


    I also have very little money and cannot afford any tests. I visited my doctor twice in the past year with concerns and he didn't do anything. I had a full blood test 2 years ago and everything was fine in terms of vitamins and minerals. I'm 6'2" and weigh 150-155lbs. I gained about 10lbs when I started eating real food which I really needed.

    Any advice is appreciated. I just feel that I'm wasting my money on all of these high quality foods and supplements when I constantly feel like this. I know thats it's experimentation but it seems that is all I do and never achieve results.

    EDIT: I've also tracked/planned every meals or the past 14 weeks as well as recording which supplements I take, sun exposure, movement, sleep and feelings.
    Last edited by Nstocks; 04-26-2013, 07:09 AM.

  • Zach
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    Originally posted by Nstocks View Post
    Haha, well it's a long english tradition to have tea and cakes in the afternoon, so I guess the tea thing is still a modern part of what people drink? I always though it was Italians and coffee!

    Dry foods? Dried fruit? Most fruit is high in water so I guess that isn't a 'dry food'?

    Is it advisable to keep taking NOW super enzymes (HCL200mg) at each meal as well as Biokult once a day whilst I try to improve my thyroid?
    Dry food would just he food with less water content. If you feel cold eat some potatoes or similar. Heavily salted.

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  • Nstocks
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    Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
    Are you drinking tap water by any chance? Depending on what part of the UK you're in, the tap water can be pretty ghastly and can definitely contribute to spots.

    Also, it's possible that you're over-hydrating. I agree with Zach about the tea: it won't hydrate you. Try drinking warm water with salt and lemon. Also, how's your body temp? If it's too low your body may not be hot enough to absorb the water that you're consuming and you just pee it out.

    Not trying to make you orthorexic about water now! Like I said before, I would aim for a really moderate approach diet-wise, including your water consumption: keep hydrated, but don't try to chug too much. Would be curios to see if it effects your circles or acne.

    You're really young and you'll bounce back. I think the most important thing is to work on having a healthier relationship with food. Did you read the article Neckhammer linked? I thought it was good.
    I drink pure filtered water both from the fridge dispenser and the BRITA kettle. Sometimes I drink mint tea to relieve bloating as it is a digestive aid...

    I tested my body temp a few months ago and I was around 1 degree under the normal 36.8C under the tongue. I know this is bad and most likely result of too low carb because my body is trying to reserve energy. This is also why I thought I always had cold hands and feet - 3 years ago I'm pretty sure I didn't need a heater 8/12months of the year to stop my feet feeling like ice blocks.

    I'll definetley cut down on the fluids. Today I have about one carton of fruit juice and one cup of tea. That's probably enough.

    I did read the article by Neckhammer and it's very much how I feel.

    "So what is a "problematic fixation" with eating healthy food? For some folks, it has a meaning similar to too much masturbation… someone who thinks about it or practices it more than you do. But like all psychiatric conditions the cardinal issue is that the obsession interferes with normal functioning or relationships or causes pathology, such as anxiety. If you don't have celiac disease or a serious gluten intolerance and going to a family party causes you great anxiety because you are worried that Uncle Brad cut the cucumbers with the same knife he used to slice the bread, you might have a problem."

    This is definitely me. I really do avoid situations where I can't control the food, like family BBQ's. I'm always exposed to this "low carb" paradigm which I've probably taken too far without realising that further restriction = less health ultimately. (I love how many nutrients, antioxidants and phytochemicals are in berry fruit juices!)

    I've cut out way too much food and food groups. For instance if I say "I eat vegetables" that excluded FODMAPS and nightshades which are a wide variety. Same with fruit although I'm really enjoying that now! Dairy hasn't been a part of my diet for about 4 years either. Last dairy I had was goats milk yoghurt which made me fee; "hungover" so to speak. This is why I now have a limited variety of food because I try things for a few days and then never eat them again.
    I'm going to try some goat cheese this week and see how that is. I also made some jello with great lakes gelatin and blueberries + fruit juice. I like that and might try cream/ice cream with it. Not "ideal" ice cream but still.
    Last edited by Nstocks; 04-28-2013, 12:08 PM.

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  • YogaBare
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    Originally posted by Nstocks View Post
    I've been paleo for over 2 years now. I started cutting out all processed foods when I did a candida cleanse. The program was initially for 7 days but I actually did it for over 2 months! After that, grains most processed sugars, all dairy and other foods where not part of my diet. Sure I ate some junky candy now and then but considering how far I had come at that time, I could at least allow some 'bad' foods.

    I've been modified paleo for 2 months now (so autoimmune paleo) and it's still just not working. I'm starting to connect the dots between going too low carb and not realising it, and the consequence that has had for me personally. I mean, even last year a typical day would be a green smoothie (with berries), salad and fish for lunch and dinner would be chicken or salmon with salad or sweet potato. I've actually only started to eat meat in this past year and perhaps I've been overdoing that? Some weeks it would be red meat at all but two meals! (which cost a lot too)

    I'd say I drink as much tea as I drink water. Each mug of tea is 500ml and I easily drink 3 of those a day. Then between meals I'd drink probably 3 pints of water. Sometimes its less sometimes its more tea and less water. I pass water fairly often but I don't sweat at all. Like nothing. Even when I had a cold last year (which doesn't happen every year), I took a bath of epson salts and ginger which is suppose to make you sweat tremendously but I never did.

    I've definitely heard that dark circles are kidney related too. Last time I went to the doctors he asked if I drink (I don't) and they just looked into my eyes. After that he just said "You are fine".

    A natural practitioner also suggested this to me one year ago: "One of the causal factors is also the way in which iron is processed by the body leading to iron metabolites that accumulate around the delicate area. There is a genetic link for this concern though often anaemia, iron deficiency, could be a problem. Poor liver function is another possibility but in both cases tests will have to be performed."

    My blood tests were fine and the Doc still didn't see that I had any problems. He also had me lay down and felt my stomach for organ size and there were fine too. Not that it's related but I had a hernia about 10 years ago. Not sure what the 'part' was that they needed to operate but the scar line is just below my underwear line.
    Are you drinking tap water by any chance? Depending on what part of the UK you're in, the tap water can be pretty ghastly and can definitely contribute to spots.

    Also, it's possible that you're over-hydrating. I agree with Zach about the tea: it won't hydrate you. Try drinking warm water with salt and lemon. Also, how's your body temp? If it's too low your body may not be hot enough to absorb the water that you're consuming and you just pee it out.

    Not trying to make you orthorexic about water now! Like I said before, I would aim for a really moderate approach diet-wise, including your water consumption: keep hydrated, but don't try to chug too much. Would be curios to see if it effects your circles or acne.

    You're really young and you'll bounce back. I think the most important thing is to work on having a healthier relationship with food. Did you read the article Neckhammer linked? I thought it was good.

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  • YogaBare
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    Originally posted by Zach View Post
    I dont understand the british = drink tea thing. Is it like americans with coffee? .
    It's like Americans with soda

    Actually, many nations drink huge amounts of tea, I don't know what it got so associated with the Brits. Go to India or China (or Ireland) and they'd show you what real tea consumption is...!

    I used to drink twelve cups a day.

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  • Nstocks
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    Originally posted by Zach View Post
    I dont understand the british = drink tea thing. Is it like americans with coffee? I dont get that either, haha.

    The problem with using tea to warm up is its actually counterproductive because tea is a diuretic and also flushes sodium so you get a double cooling effect and an energy crash. You should aim to warm yourself with dry foods, salt and improving your thyroid and metabolism.
    Haha, well it's a long english tradition to have tea and cakes in the afternoon, so I guess the tea thing is still a modern part of what people drink? I always though it was Italians and coffee!

    Dry foods? Dried fruit? Most fruit is high in water so I guess that isn't a 'dry food'?

    Is it advisable to keep taking NOW super enzymes (HCL200mg) at each meal as well as Biokult once a day whilst I try to improve my thyroid?

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  • Zach
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    I dont understand the british = drink tea thing. Is it like americans with coffee? I dont get that either, haha.

    The problem with using tea to warm up is its actually counterproductive because tea is a diuretic and also flushes sodium so you get a double cooling effect and an energy crash. You should aim to warm yourself with dry foods, salt and improving your thyroid and metabolism.

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  • Nstocks
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    Originally posted by Zach View Post
    Another big sign of hypo is not sweating and urinating a lot. Drop the amount of water/tea you drink and concentrate on the juice/fruit for liquids.

    So you were a vegetarian before paleo?
    You know, quite a lot of people asked me that when I was at uni (graduated last year).Someone even said I look ill which could be the dark circles or because I was 10-14lbs lighter when I was at uni. (stressful architecture degree with a huge amount of stress and little calorie intake) I wasn't a vegetarian but everyday/meal would be chicken breast (CAFO) or salmon (wild). Occasionally tuna and that was it! Even when I went paleo, it was a while before I ate red meat because I still had the impression it was bad. I then visited the organic farm where they grass fed the animas and I can see why meat is so important, and tasty.

    I only really drink so much tea because for one I'm english! but also just because it's still cold here and tea warms me up. I'm going to use fruit juice for cold and tea for hot drink. Actually just amking jello right now and it looks amazing.

    I'm really starting to understand that I've not been making healthy choices and why low carb has made my body so messed up with no real recovered after the typical meat and veg.
    Last edited by Nstocks; 04-28-2013, 10:34 AM.

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  • Zach
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    Another big sign of hypo is not sweating and urinating a lot. Drop the amount of water/tea you drink and concentrate on the juice/fruit for liquids.

    So you were a vegetarian before paleo?

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  • Nstocks
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    Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
    I feel your pain man. It's pretty frustrating when you keep trying to do things "right" and you feel like it's fucking you up even more. However, you have only been "primal" for five weeks right? And in that time you've been low carb? I see you've decided to try another kind of diet, but personally I think eating a clean diet (no processed food) with moderate amounts of each food group is the option with the least margin of error.

    Also, how much water do you drink? The "two litres a day" propaganda is flawed, but would be helpful to know how much you're consuming / if you're absorbing it or peeing / sweating it all out. The area under the eyes is related to kidneys (in terms of nervous system).
    I've been paleo for over 2 years now. I started cutting out all processed foods when I did a candida cleanse. The program was initially for 7 days but I actually did it for over 2 months! After that, grains most processed sugars, all dairy and other foods where not part of my diet. Sure I ate some junky candy now and then but considering how far I had come at that time, I could at least allow some 'bad' foods.

    I've been modified paleo for 2 months now (so autoimmune paleo) and it's still just not working. I'm starting to connect the dots between going too low carb and not realising it, and the consequence that has had for me personally. I mean, even last year a typical day would be a green smoothie (with berries), salad and fish for lunch and dinner would be chicken or salmon with salad or sweet potato. I've actually only started to eat meat in this past year and perhaps I've been overdoing that? Some weeks it would be red meat at all but two meals! (which cost a lot too)

    I'd say I drink as much tea as I drink water. Each mug of tea is 500ml and I easily drink 3 of those a day. Then between meals I'd drink probably 3 pints of water. Sometimes its less sometimes its more tea and less water. I pass water fairly often but I don't sweat at all. Like nothing. Even when I had a cold last year (which doesn't happen every year), I took a bath of epson salts and ginger which is suppose to make you sweat tremendously but I never did.

    I've definitely heard that dark circles are kidney related too. Last time I went to the doctors he asked if I drink (I don't) and they just looked into my eyes. After that he just said "You are fine".

    A natural practitioner also suggested this to me one year ago: "One of the causal factors is also the way in which iron is processed by the body leading to iron metabolites that accumulate around the delicate area. There is a genetic link for this concern though often anaemia, iron deficiency, could be a problem. Poor liver function is another possibility but in both cases tests will have to be performed."

    My blood tests were fine and the Doc still didn't see that I had any problems. He also had me lay down and felt my stomach for organ size and there were fine too. Not that it's related but I had a hernia about 10 years ago. Not sure what the 'part' was that they needed to operate but the scar line is just below my underwear line.

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  • YogaBare
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    Originally posted by Nstocks View Post
    It has all stemmed from orthorexia after trying to clear my mild acne holistically. (and dark circles). Each week (which have now turned to months of 'healthy' eating but years of worrying about it) I cut out more foods because that was the only thing I could control.

    I'm frustrated for sure, but I'm not too stressed. I'm confused too. It pisses me off that I eat all of these amazing foods and I'm no healthier than joe bloggs who chugs down garbage all day. This is probably due to gut issues and not being able to assimilate foods.(leaky gut)

    Pre-paleo I don't really remember feeling great. I remember binging a lot on junk and that was the only exciting part of eating at that time. (and because I didn't have to pay for it - there's an abundance of junk food at home) Throughout out the journey of trying to eat real food, my skin still hasn't been great. I remember cutting out dairy 5 years ago and whilst that helped a little, I feel my problems now are not going to be anything like those causing acne 5 years ago.
    I feel your pain man. It's pretty frustrating when you keep trying to do things "right" and you feel like it's fucking you up even more. However, you have only been "primal" for five weeks right? And in that time you've been low carb? I see you've decided to try another kind of diet, but personally I think eating a clean diet (no processed food) with moderate amounts of each food group is the option with the least margin of error.

    Also, how much water do you drink? The "two litres a day" propaganda is flawed, but would be helpful to know how much you're consuming / if you're absorbing it or peeing / sweating it all out. The area under the eyes is related to kidneys (in terms of nervous system).

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  • Nstocks
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    Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
    Low HCl will cause problems with everything. Sort that first.
    I had about 60 capsule of 600mg HCl and I tried 8 capsules with no heat. I then reduced it after 3x8sets to 4 capsules.

    I'm now taking this which contain 200mg HCL amongst some other stuff. Now Foods Super Enzymes, 180 Caps: Amazon.co.uk: Health & Beauty

    I never feel heat from these items so I'm reluctant to buy more.

    I also tried the bicardobate of soda test and that didn't make be belch or anything. It made me slightly fuller like FODMAPS do.

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  • Neckhammer
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    Low HCl will cause problems with everything. Sort that first.

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  • Zach
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    Try betein HCl and ice cream. That combo cures everything.

    Honestly i think you will find no relief with SCD but good luck anyway. If you ever want to give my advice a try just send me a PM. My advice certainly wasnt plucked out of thin air.

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  • Nstocks
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    Originally posted by Coconut View Post
    Could you have low stomach acid? perhaps try taking enzymes ( you can get them in tablet form). May help.. worth a try.
    I do have low stomach acid for sure. I'm supplementing with NOW foods super enzymes...

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