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    Last edited by venfayon; 03-11-2014, 09:24 PM.

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    Here is a part of an article off the web dealing with this study. It is pretty vague, however, a statement from Mr. Sisson would be appreciated!



    People who took part in the study consumed an average of 1,823 calories a day, with 51% coming from carbohydrates, 33% from fat, and 16% from protein, of which two thirds was animal protein. Longo divided them into three groups. The high-protein group got 20% or more of their calories from protein, the moderate group got 10 to 19% of their calories from protein, and the low group got less than 10% of calories from protein.

    Teasing out the health effects of individual nutrients is notoriously difficult. The apparently harmful effects of a high-protein diet might be down to one or more other substances in meat, or driven by lifestyle factors that are more common in regular red meat eaters versus vegetarians. Other factors can skew results too: a person on the study who got ill might have gone off their food, and seen a proportional rise in the amount of calories they get from protein. In that case, it would be the illness driving the diet, not the other way round.

    "I would urge general caution over observational studies, and particularly when looking at diet, given the difficulties of disentangling one nutrient or dietary component from another. You can get an association that might have some causal linkage or might not," said Peter Emery, head of nutrition and dietetics at King's College London.

    Gunter Kuhnle, a food nutrition scientist at Reading University, said it was wrong "and potentially even dangerous" to compare the effects of smoking with the effect of meat and cheese as the study does.

    "Sending out [press] statements such as this can damage the effectiveness of important public health messages. They can help to prevent sound health advice from getting through to the general public. The smoker thinks: 'why bother quitting smoking if my cheese and ham sandwich is just as bad for me?'"

    Heather Ohly at the European Centre for Environment and Human Health in Exeter said: "Smoking has been proven to be entirely bad for us, whereas meat and cheese can be consumed in moderation as part of a healthy diet, contributing to recommended intakes of many important nutrients."

    Most people in Britain eat more protein than they need. The British Dietetic Association recommends a daily intake of 45g and 55g of protein for the average woman and man respectively. But according to the British Nutrition Foundation the average protein intake per day is 88g and 64g for men and women.

    In a series of follow-up experiments, Longo looked at what might lie behind the apparently damaging effects of a high-protein diet on health in middle age. Blood tests on people in the study showed that levels of a growth hormone called IGF-1 rose and fell in line with protein intake. For those on a high protein diet, rises in IGF-1 steadily increased their cancer risk. Further tests on mice found that a high-protein diet led to more cancer and larger tumours than a low-protein diet.

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    • #3
      Cause everything in the internet is truth!
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      • #4
        This article doesn't support my beliefs, therefore, I must disregard and discredit it as false.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by john_e_turner_ii View Post
          This article doesn't support my beliefs, therefore, I must disregard and discredit it as false.
          It is just a study on mice and then an opinion piece on humans so its not all that hard to discredit.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
            It is just a study on mice and then an opinion piece on humans so its not all that hard to discredit.
            Being sarcastic actually. It's human nature to disregard anything that doesn't confirm our beliefs, regardless of the strength of the evidence.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by john_e_turner_ii View Post
              Being sarcastic actually. It's human nature to disregard anything that doesn't confirm our beliefs, regardless of the strength of the evidence.
              True.

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              • #8
                I, however, don't fall into that trap.

                Which is why I'm here.

                M.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MEversbergII View Post
                  I, however, don't fall into that trap.

                  Which is why I'm here.

                  M.
                  Couldn't agree more.

                  Sent from my Nexus 7 using Marks Daily Apple Forum mobile app

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                  • #10
                    Animal protein as bad as smoking?! Who would have thought that the lead scientist has a company making plant protein, meal replacement shakes for people who find it too difficult to do fasting? LMAO biased much? I can't wait for the price of meat to come down.
                    Man seeks to change the foods available in nature to suit his tastes, thereby putting an end to the very essence of life contained in them.
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