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  • Paleo and corn

    Hello all,
    I've been loosely following a more Paleo lifestyle since January...no grains, no dairy (stomach ache yuk), limited sugars, lots of meat and veggies, bone broth, leafy greens, and eggs. I do drink wine and put chemical-laden, stupid sugary creamer in my coffee; you only live once, and these little vices make me happy. Whatever.

    I do not care much for potatoes, and I stay away from most of the Paleo-ified goodies (almond flour cookies, coconut flour pancakes, etc.) I do not do well with rice or soy, so even though I work at a sushi place, rarely touch those either. I never ate very poorly, but my diet is certainly cleaner than it was and I feel healthy and good.

    My question is - if we are supposed to nourish ourselves with a diet that nature intended our bodies to process, would it be so bad to consume corn? When I've had cornmeal or corn by itself, I've not had any digestive issues and I find that it's filling and gives me energy. I'm Native American and experience common allergies for my background...lactose, alcohol sensitivity, etc. So even though corn isn't technically "Paleo", would a little every now and again be so bad, considering it's a huge part of my ancestral nutritional profile? Since cutting beans and all grains from my diet, I do feel much better...but I metabolize protein and veggies so fast, and sometimes feel like I need something that will fuel me for longer.

    Any thoughts?

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    I eat corn on the cob once in a while. I don't think it's that nutrition-filled, but I don't really think it's toxic either.
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    • #3
      i have a few ears of local native corn when it's in season here. not dead yet. basically it's a crunchy vehicle for salt and butter.

      i use non-gmo organic cornmeal sometimes too -- like for polenta, or tonight i made artichoke/anchovy fritters with it.
      As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

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      • #4
        Corn does not agree with me, and I go out of my way to avoid it. But if you do not react to it, go ahead.

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        • #5
          I eat some organic corn tortillas and some corn when it's in season during the summer. Right now, I'm struggling with my blood sugar so I have to go very easy on the carbs, otherwise I'd eat tortillas several times per week.

          Your ancestry is important. I say to go for it.

          I'm surprised that white rice would be a problem. Soy, yes. Avoid like the plague.
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          • #6
            I would stick to organic corn if you can. GMO's are scary and certainly not the same corn your ancestors enjoyed!
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            • #7
              Originally posted by cegillihan View Post
              I metabolize protein and veggies so fast, and sometimes feel like I need something that will fuel me for longer.
              Nothing wrong with adding moderate carbohydrate. I'd also try some tubers and starchy fruits since we know they have a low toxin load after cooking. IIRC most pre-Columbian corn was alkalized into hominy or masa for the purpose of removing molds? Not to foster paranoia but immediate digestion doesn't always tell the whole story so pay attention to energy and mood as you experiment.

              If you're in the US I would still avoid the "corn" ingredients seen in processed foods--just too many unanswered questions.
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              • #8
                Corn is a grain. Having said that if it is not GMO and you want some, and it does not bother you, and you are not really paleo...why would you care?
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                • #9
                  Having said that I still remember years ago when I was in like grade 4 or 5 wondering a friend wondered why he could see corn in his poop...of course now we all now it is low nutrition, high glucose, partially undigested grain but back then....
                  Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
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                  • #10
                    Corn is delicious and reasonably nutritious. I eat it when it is fresh only these days.

                    Many Native American cultures used it a large portion of their diets. But they realized that the nutritional value was limited if it was not treated properly:

                    Nixtamalization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


                    The other downside to corn is that it has been highly modified genetically in the last 50 years.

                    So - for me - only when fresh and in season. During which time I might have it as much as two or three times a week. (I grew up in Illinois ).

                    As a year round food source I think it's suspect.
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                    • #11
                      I find as well that corn under a certain amount does not cause me problems. I love my pop corn and corn chips occasionally and good corn tortillas are a carb staple along with rice in this house. If I eat too much I get mucho farts.

                      Also keep in mind that the corn your ancestors grew and ate is not what is commonly called corn today. If you can find and grow heritage versions of the three sisters and none of them make you feel bad to eat then I say honor your heritage and your ancestors and the gifts that the spirits of the land gave you.

                      If you find that basic meat and veg is insufficient then how much fat are you eating? For that matter how much food are you eating? Before you crank up the carbs to fill you up, make sure you are getting enough calories in general from real nutrient dense foods and also make sure that 50% or more of your calories are from fats.

                      Unfortunately there is no real way for us to tell you how much of what to eat, you have to experiment see what works and what doesn't. What are your goals? what do you want out of this ride we call life? Orient your diet to achieve those goals.
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                      • #12
                        Corn products, no. Just corn on its own? Eeehhhhh. If you feel ok on it then I don't see why not. I like sweet corn when it's in season, Olathe sweet corn from Colorado is the best. I'm still partial to pop corn done on the stove top with a little coconut oil and salt as a snack. I recently added it back in and haven't had problems with it.


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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CaveBug View Post
                          Corn products, no. Just corn on its own? Eeehhhhh. If you feel ok on it then I don't see why not. I like sweet corn when it's in season, Olathe sweet corn from Colorado is the best. I'm still partial to pop corn done on the stove top with a little coconut oil and salt as a snack. I recently added it back in and haven't had problems with it.


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                          Me too! I love sweet corn and find it a useful filler. I'm not low carb (more perfect health diet than primal) and can't see any reason not to eat foods just for energy as long as they don't cause me any problems and I feel nutritionally replete. I generally go by instinct with these things and my instinct tells me gluten grains, no, sweet corn ok!

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                          • #14
                            Interestingly, many super sweet corn varieties are unintended results of exposing corn to radiation during nuclear tests in the 1940s.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ekba09 View Post
                              Interestingly, many super sweet corn varieties are unintended results of exposing corn to radiation during nuclear tests in the 1940s.
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                              As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

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