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  • #16
    given those two choices, I'd choose fried...
    I don't have a sweet tooth (remember the Wendy's "Ranch Tooth" commercial? I identified with that), and as someone pointed out, it's socially acceptable to skip dessert... I also like crunchy things... but yeah, sometimes the smell of that oil is just... ugh.

    BUT... I don't really see why you can't make a better choice than fried or sweet.

    I live in a HUGE city - and really, most of the "grocery stores" do not have real food except for the less-junky junk they put on sandwiches... the "salad bars" often have some good things alongside pre-dressed Caesar (with crutons), corn, edamame, sweetened cranberries, various crunchies of ill-repute, usually CAFO and/or processed meat, etc...

    also, FYI
    McDonalds Grilled Chicken Fillet
    Allergens: SOY LECITHIN
    Chicken breast fillet with rib meat, water, seasoning (rice starch, salt, sugar, yeast extract, canola oil, onion powder, maltodextrin, chicken skin, paprika, flavor, sunflower oil, chicken, garlic powder, chicken fat, spices), sodium phosphates.

    Prepared with Liquid Margarine: Liquid soybean oil and hydrogenated cottonseed and soybean oils, water, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, salt, soy lecithin, mono-and diglycerides, sodium benzoate and potassium sorbate (preservatives), artificial flavor, citric acid, vitamin A palmitate, beta carotene (color).


    Other restaurants' "grilled chicken" contains similar junk.


    • #17
      RitaRose and PrimalMama, thank you for posting that. I continue to be surprised at primal folks who think it's ok to go fast food places as long as they throw away the bread. McD is probably the largest reason why rainforest land has been turned into CAFO stockyards and then they cook it with the cheapest, nastiest crap they can. Turning a chicken filet into crap takes even more "talent" than turning ground beef into crap.

      I've never done the research on what goes into their food because I haven't eaten at KFC or McD in decades. Your posts were both a revelation and a confirmation that I'm not crazy. (Not in my attitude toward fast food anyway.)
      "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine


      Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.


      • #18
        "Lucky" for us, McD's has their ingredients on the website... You can also look for allergens - even if they don't list ingredients, most companies list whether their product contains wheat, soy, egg, dairy, nuts, peanuts... but as you can see from my McD's example above, they don't usually count soy oil as "containing soy."


        • #19
          Originally posted by RitaRose View Post
          I would tend to agree, but many times the chicken on a salad is injected with all kinds of crap. No matter what, unless you have the label in front of you, there's no way of knowing what's in food you didn't cool yourself.

          I had a grilled chicken breast at KFC once early on, and I felt like crap. Just a plain grilled chicken breast, which is about as simple of an idea as you can get, but the ingredients were: Scary.
          Thank you, Rita Rose for just having cured me of any lingering desire I once felt for a bucket of extra crispy KFC. Ewwwwwwww.


          • #20
            Originally posted by SouthBeachPrimal View Post
            Sweets without wheats is the best form of cheats!
            That's what I eats!


            • #21
              Oh I'm glad we have kabab shops here - donna meat - fatty lamb on a stick, cooked infront of a gas fire - fully primal

              even chippy chips arn't so bad - sunflower oil is the not the worst thing and it's just cut up real potatoes - massive carb hit.

              It's just a pitty northern chippies don't use dripping anymore - they used to be proud of it 'Our chips are fried in real dripping' they used to proclaim, then wrap them in actual newspaper, not sterile greasproof sheets and polysterene trays. Damm you veggies and health and saftey people.
              You know all those pictures of Adam and Eve where they have belly button? Think about it..................... take as long as you need........................


              • #22
                If you are in the south.... go get BBQ. Big old pile of pork. Skip the sides.

                I find its not that hard to dine out and come close. This week, I had a burrito bowl (pork, salsa, guac, veggies). I guess you can get burned on the bad oils though if you are not careful.

                Usually you have options.... coffee shop- skip the frisbee size cookie and have a cup of coffee and maybe a piece of fruit. Most restaurants have decent options too- no reason to eat bread, a salad with toxic sludge, lasagna and cake. You can usually do better.... my birthday dinner at an italian place was a cheese platter, duck, potatoes with fennel, and ice cream. The mexican place near me I can get a carnitas platter- big pile of pork, skip the rice and beans, have some salsa. They also have a grilled skirt steak. No one even notices that I don't have a giant tortilla. Around the corner from my office is a great greek place- greek salad, add chicken (they use olive oil).

                You really don't have to eat wings, pizza, french fries etc.

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                • #23
                  I tend to just skip eating and have an unsweetened iced tea. Like another poster, I don't apologize for how I eat. If someone wants to scarf down a Big Mac, lg. fries and a DIET coke, that's on them.

                  I do like In and Out Burger (double protein style) and Carl's Jr. has a "low carb" burger with lettuce buns (I ask for no cheese and add bacon).

                  There are always choices, but sometimes it's just to do without.